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	<title>Comments on: The congregation that won&#8217;t marry anyone &#8211; yet</title>
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		<title>By: Antony</title>
		<link>http://www.humanistlife.org.uk/2010/02/the-congregation-that-wont-marry-anyone-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, here&#039;s what I should have asked for clarification on - the thing I didn&#039;t understand and which  was actually what was bothering me when I posted the above:

Are  Unitarian&#039;s continuing to mark and celebrate couplings in their ceremonies?  i.e. is it just that same-sex and opposite-sex couples are now equal in the sense that you are effectively saying to them &quot;sorry, you&#039;ll have to go to a registry office to get the legal bit done&quot;.

That would also have the happy side-effect that Unitarian and Humanist couples are now equal :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, here&#8217;s what I should have asked for clarification on &#8211; the thing I didn&#8217;t understand and which  was actually what was bothering me when I posted the above:</p>
<p>Are  Unitarian&#8217;s continuing to mark and celebrate couplings in their ceremonies?  i.e. is it just that same-sex and opposite-sex couples are now equal in the sense that you are effectively saying to them &#8220;sorry, you&#8217;ll have to go to a registry office to get the legal bit done&#8221;.</p>
<p>That would also have the happy side-effect that Unitarian and Humanist couples are now equal <img src='http://www.humanistlife.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Antony</title>
		<link>http://www.humanistlife.org.uk/2010/02/the-congregation-that-wont-marry-anyone-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the difference between a marriage and civil-partnership?  I&#039;d prefer to live in a secular state, and therefore think that governments have no business interfering with any non-civil aspects of marriage that may exist (or be purported to exist).

Let me see if I&#039;ve understood the state of our marriage laws:

* - Humanist celebrants can&#039;t do the registration bit of marriages and civil-partnerships.

* - Muslim clergy can&#039;t do the registration bit of marriages.  Which (often?) leads to it being skipped, and finding one doesn&#039;t have certain legal rights can be a horrible shock and cause serious problems further down the line.

* - Quakers and Unitarians would like to be able to marry same-sex couples, but currently aren&#039;t legally able to.


Thanks.  I&#039;ll be post-feminist in a post-patriarchy and post-humanist in a post-theocracy :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the difference between a marriage and civil-partnership?  I&#8217;d prefer to live in a secular state, and therefore think that governments have no business interfering with any non-civil aspects of marriage that may exist (or be purported to exist).</p>
<p>Let me see if I&#8217;ve understood the state of our marriage laws:</p>
<p>* &#8211; Humanist celebrants can&#8217;t do the registration bit of marriages and civil-partnerships.</p>
<p>* &#8211; Muslim clergy can&#8217;t do the registration bit of marriages.  Which (often?) leads to it being skipped, and finding one doesn&#8217;t have certain legal rights can be a horrible shock and cause serious problems further down the line.</p>
<p>* &#8211; Quakers and Unitarians would like to be able to marry same-sex couples, but currently aren&#8217;t legally able to.</p>
<p>Thanks.  I&#8217;ll be post-feminist in a post-patriarchy and post-humanist in a post-theocracy <img src='http://www.humanistlife.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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